March 6, 2010


Filed under: Secret family courts — Granarchist @ 6:35 am

I suffer with pms /pmdd .

I am writing this to inform you that Social Services and Family Courts are diagnosing people with Personality Disorders and other nonsense.

This then leads to the removal of children with no chance of them being returned.

My mother always stated i had been fine growing up until i started my periods.

Then while forced to go into a mother and baby unit the nurses and Psychiatrist there reported a marked change in my mood before my period.

Also i had weekly counselling with Womens Aid who also noticed the same.

Social Services refused to acknowledge it.

I was referred to a specialist who successfully trested me with Prostrap injections.

The difference was apparent enough for 3 seperate psychiatrists to state that if i were to remain stable then the previous diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder should be reviewed.

I have just found paperwork also from a psychiatrist stating if i were to remain stable it was more likely a diagnosis of PMS.

I am pleased to say i have remained stable and had no psychiatric involvement or medications for over a year.


They would still like the old diagnosis to stick you see so that they do not have to be held accountable.

They can then say im mentally ill when i complain .

It is worth mentioning that throughout this witch hunt against me by Social Services i was misdiagnosed also as being bipolar.

This was later thrown out.

Beware what you are being diagnosed with.

PMDD: Extreme PMS
Elizabeth Freundel saw seven psychiatrists before doctors found the real cause of her mental torment – her hormones
By Sian Thatcher
Tuesday, 27 February 2007
The therapist shook her head. “I have no idea what’s wrong with you,” she says. For Elizabeth Freundel, these words came as no surprise. During the past six years, she had seen seven psychiatrists – each one conjuring up wildly different diagnoses. According to one she was bipolar, while another said she was epileptic. She had taken a full spectrum of psychiatric drugs – three years on lithium, one year on Seroxat, mixed in with a potent cocktail of anticonvulsants, Valium and more. She was having around five panic attacks a day and was severely depressed – and no one had any idea what was wrong with her. She had endured this for almost 15 years and hope of finding a solution was beginning to fade.
Elizabeth’s problems started aged 12. She morphed from an adventurous and friendly child into a surly, withdrawn teenager. She would oscillate from feeling depressed and anxious to being herself again every month, but she suffered mostly in silence, assuming that this was the norm. “I felt exhausted and confused from this rollercoaster of emotions,” she says. “I tried to keep it all inside, just raging internally instead.
“When I was 18, I started getting deeply depressed on a cyclical basis and also had an upset stomach, bad period pains and felt exceptionally lethargic. I felt like I had some sort of muscle-wasting disease. My weight went down to just under eight stone and I’m five foot nine, so I was quite skinny.” She went to the doctor about her period pain and was given painkillers, but she never thought her problems could be related.
By the time she went to Cambridge University, her condition became unmanageable and she started to “go a wee bit nuts”. She was fine for two weeks a month, but the rest of the time suffered panic attacks and was unable to work. “When I was low, I would spend 16 hours a day hiding under duvets sobbing to myself,” she says. “But as soon as my period started, I was like, ‘let’s go partying’ – it was that delineated.” Her work was suffering, so she started to see a psychiatrist in her second year and was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and put on a course of lithium, which had no effect.
After university, she went to work for an auction house. She enjoyed her job and was ambitious, but by the time she left, she suffered even more frequent panic attacks, bouts of irritable bowel syndrome and menstruated all the time.
It was at this stage that her latest psychiatrist told her there was nothing they could do. Elizabeth, then 27, felt she was just a “non-functioning human being”. To try to solve her menstrual problems at least, she Googled “Harley Street” and “gynaecologist” and came across Professor John Studd. “I made an appointment and after I mentioned a few symptoms, he stopped me and said, ‘I know exactly what’s wrong with you, and it’s PMS [premenstrual syndrome]’. I just thought, ‘You’re the maddest man in Maddsville’.”
He prescribed injections that shut down her ovaries, so she has no hormonal cycle. She has oestrogen and testosterone implants in her abdomen and has to have bone density scans every year to make sure she isn’t developing osteoporosis, but says she feels good. “The treatment worked pretty much immediately. I’m so grateful to Dr Studd,” says Elizabeth, now 30. “I’m a completely different person. I went from being a weepy, crazy, needy individual to being absolutely fine. I’m angry because I’ve wasted so much time being sick and if I’d know this so many years ago, I could have fixed it.”
While Elizabeth’s story is extreme, this severe form of PMS is very prevalent. Nicholas Panay, the chairman of the National Association for Premenstrual Syndrome (Naps) and consultant gynaecologist, suggests that up to 10 per cent of women in this country suffer from this illness, but that few people realise it exists. “It’s a serious condition,” he says. “The difficulty is that PMS symptoms are common. A lot of people have mild PMS, but there is a group who have severe symptoms that can make lives a misery.” Indeed, what these women are dealing with is not PMS but Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder (PMDD).
No one knows exactly what causes PMDD, but it seems to be linked to ovarian activity. “We know that it’s a cyclical phenomenon, probably caused by fluctuations in hormone levels, which have a reciprocal effect on the chemical messengers in the brain,” says Dr Panay.
Women who are more sensitive to their changing hormone levels may experience symptoms such as depression, mood swings, uncontrollable rage, inability to cope and anxiety attacks. Fluid retention, breast tenderness, bloating and migraines are also common. Taken to its extreme, there have been recorded cases of suicide and one woman was acquitted of murder on the grounds of “temporary insanity from suppression of the menses”. “I’ve been involved with cases of children being taken away from mothers because of PMDD,” says Dr Panay. “And then after appropriate treatment, the children have been returned, as she’s no longer a danger.”
While it can affect women in their teens and twenties, symptoms tend to be milder and it’s not usually until their early thirties or after the birth of a first or second child that they seek help for it. And because symptoms vary, it is often misdiagnosed. Dr Panay estimates that between 25 and 50 per cent of the women he sees in his specialist PMDD clinic have been misdiagnosed with mental disorders, ranging from bipolar and depression to anxiety problems. Indeed, he says, GPs have not been trained to deal with this condition.
Thousands of women are told there is no treatment for this, when there are many ways to make symptoms bearable. “The first course of action is to minimise stress in your life, make sure you’ve got an optimal diet and exercise regularly,” says Dr Panay. “Cutting out or reducing alcohol, caffeine and chocolate is important, as these exacerbate symptoms. Evening primrose is effective, but only to combat breast tenderness and fluid retention. Vitamin B6, calcium, vitamin D and Agnus Castus have been shown to be of benefit in easing mild to moderate PMS.”
For women with PMDD, further intervention is needed in the shape of hormone therapy or antidepressants. “Cipramil and Cipralex are the best antidepressants for this,” says Dr Panay. Other women prefer to go down the hormone-therapy route and the simplest treatment is the Pill, which provides a constant hormonal environment, but it must be used without a seven-day break. If the Pill doesn’t work, then the next step is oestrogen patches, which are 70 to 80 per cent effective. A more successful treatment, again, is the one Elizabeth uses – a monthly injection that suppresses the cycle, mimicking the menopause.
“The only complete cure is either the menopause or the removal of the ovaries,” says Dr Panay. “Obviously, that’s not feasible in the majority of women and we don’t advocate that as a first line, but there are one or two women a year who will resort to hysterectomy.”
Naps is campaigning for better awareness of this condition. Its website ( attracts thousands of people, and the forums and helpline are a particular source of comfort. For many women, just finding that they’re not alone is a relief. But Naps only has under one year left before it runs out of funds, and it islooking for sponsors to keep the society running.
“PMDD may not kill you,” says Dr Panay. “But longevity means nothing without quality of life.”
PMDD: the symptoms
The physical symptoms are the same for PMS and PMDD, and while the emotional symptoms are similar, they are much more severe for PMDD. For example, mild depression is not uncommon with PMS, but with PMDD, women may experience significant depression to the point of contemplating suicide.
If you have severe panic attacks, bouts of anger, irritability or depression before your period that affect your relationships at home and in work, you may have PMDD.
The best way to confirm this is to keep a symptom diary, which you can download from the NAPS website (, and record the severity and timing of symptoms. If the symptoms occur throughout the cycle, it’s unlikely to be PMDD.
Keep the diary for three months and take it to your GP. If your GP doesn’t seem to be helping, ask to be referred to a PMS clinic. You can find the details of these clinics on the NAPS website, which also has a forum. For support and more information, use the website or NAPS helpline (08707 772 177).

Donna was told she was stressed and the ‘cure’ was more sex. In fact, she had a crippling new form of PMS

Last updated at 12:19 PM on 06th October 2009

Consider this: there’s a condition which has a seriously disruptive effect on women’s lives, leading to severe depression and wreaking havoc on their work and relationships. Yet many GPs aren’t aware it exists.

Meanwhile, even the specialists who do acknowledge it can’t agree on what it should be called.

This confusion has devastating consequences, with many sufferers being misdiagnosed with manic depression (bipolar disorder) and treated with antidepressants or antipsychotics, or, at the other extreme, told simply to pull themselves together.

Long battle: PMDD sufferer Donna Barrowman with her son Jamie

Long battle: PMDD sufferer Donna Barrowman with her son Jamie

Yet, with proper hormonal treatment, they could soon be leading normal, healthy lives.

The condition is premenstrual dysphoric disorder (PMDD). An estimated 800,000 women in Britain suffer from it, with symptoms including severe depression, loss of energy, anxiety, irritability and feelings of hopelessness for up to two weeks before menstruation.

American psychiatrists invented the label to distinguish it from the far milder and more common premenstrual syndrome (PMS).

The problem, say experts, is that GPs tend to assume any problem linked to the menstrual cycle is this mild form – for which they normally recommend lifestyle changes such as regular exercise and cutting back on sugar.

Later this month the National Association for Premenstrual Syndrome will be sending all GPs the first guidelines distinguishing between PMDD and PMS and their treatments.

But as hormonal expert Nick Panay explains, whatever the more serious condition is called, doctors and gynaecologists need to recognise that it must not be mistaken for PMS, and that women with these more severe symptoms need treatment with hormones.

‘It’s still too common for doctors to assume that women with PMDD are making a fuss about relatively minor symptoms – and even to accuse them of being acopic [unable to cope] or lacking moral fibre,’ says Mr Panay, a gynaecologist at Queen Charlotte’s Hospital in London.

Like the milder form, PMDD occurs in women who are sensitive to the fluctuating levels of hormones during the menstrual cycle. In the two weeks after ovulation, progesterone increases dramatically – it’s this hormone that is responsible for premenstrual mood swings.

Premenstrual tension causes headaches - and abdominal aches - for many women

Premenstrual tension causes headaches – and abdominal aches – for many women

Donna Barrowman was a bright, confident 22-year-old, engaged to the man of her dreams and with a job she loved. Life was rosy – except for the monthly occasions-when her energy and self-belief plummeted so low she could barely get through the day.

‘From seeing myself as a strong person who coped well and enjoyed life to the full, in the ten days or so before my period, I’d turn into someone who was constantly tired and who obsessed about a friend’s trivial remark or an incident at work that I’d normally brush off without a second thought,’ explains Donna.

A support worker for adults with mental health problems, she quickly recognised the symptoms were linked to her menstrual cycle. Yet her GP told her repeatedly that she’d just have to put up with them, and even the specialists made light of it.

‘After being referred to a gynaecologist, I told him how I was finding everyday life increasingly impossible and it seemed to come and go on a cyclical basis,’ says Donna. ‘I asked him if there might be a connection with my periods. He told me that was nonsense, that I was obviously stressed and should have more sex. I can laugh now, but at the time it was desperately hurtful – one more person telling me it was my fault I was feeling so bad.’

In June 2003, Donna was put on Depo Provera, a monthly contraception injection her GP assured her would regularise her periods.

But what is a useful therapy for healthy women causes havoc in those with PMDD as it gives them more progesterone.

Donna’s monthly low mood turned into full-blown depression and her periods became so heavy that ordinary life became impossible. ‘I could barely get out of bed,’ she recalls.

The contraceptive was stopped after three months. Her wedding to Alan, a marketing and sales manager, went ahead that year, but he had to get used to her Jekyll and Hyde personality. ‘He was never sure which woman he’d come home to: my normal, bubbly self or someone who was withdrawn, snappy and tired.’

When she became pregnant with Jamie, now three, life suddenly took an upturn. ‘I didn’t feel out of sorts once when I was pregnant,’ says Donna. ‘I thought I’d found the answer and that motherhood would make me healthy and happy again.’

In fact, Donna’s disruptive hormonal swings had disappeared because she was no longer menstruating – a classic sign of PMDD. Immediately after Jamie’s birth, along with her periods, her symptoms returned with a vengeance.

But instead of recognising this pattern, doctors diagnosed her with postnatal depression and prescribed antidepressants, which made no difference. Exactly the same pattern followed when she became pregnant with Blair two years later: the same diagnosis, the same antidepressants.

This time, Donna had had enough. Through the internet she discovered the National Association for Premenstrual Syndrome (NAPS) and was referred to Dr Heather Currie, a gynaecologist and expert in hormonal problems at Dumfries and Galloway Royal Infirmary.

An estimated 800,000 women suffer from premenstrual dysphoric disorder

An estimated 800,000 women in the UK suffer from premenstrual dysphoric disorder

‘She told me that my medical history couldn’t have been clearer – the way that I’d reacted so badly to the progesterone injection, for instance, and the fact the symptoms disappeared when I was pregnant were obvious signs that my problems were hormonal,’ says Donna.

‘She told me it wasn’t my fault and I didn’t have to put up it. ‘It was such a relief to hear that. Yet I was angry, too. I shouldn’t have had to suffer just because of other people’s ignorance.’

Once correctly diagnosed, PMDD is relatively straightforward to treat. Most women can be helped with oestrogen patches, pills or creams or with a monthly injection that shuts down the menstrual cycle, temporarily mimicking the menopause. For those who have completed their families, a hysterectomy is another option.

In March this year Donna was given the injection, and within a month her symptoms had gone. The transformation was so great that in August, just a few weeks before her 30th birthday, she had a hysterectomy to make the benefits permanent.

With the disorder recognised by doctors for 45 years, why did Donna suffer such a delay in getting help?

Part of the problem, says Mr Panay, is that international research to improve diagnosis and treatment has been held up because doctors can’t agree on the best name for it.

The word ‘dysphoria’, he says, simply means having a mood disorder. But because some gynaecologists think this gives PMDD a psychiatric label, they are reluctant to use it. ‘The result is that women are still being seen by doctors who are failing to distinguish between PMS and the more serious disorder,’ he adds.

Professor John Studd, a gynaecologist who runs the London PMS & Menopause Clinic in Wimpole Street, Central London, is adamant that the name PMDD suggests it’s a psychiatric problem and thus gives the misleading impression antidepressants such as Prozac will help.

‘What matters is that doctors realise it’s entirely caused by abnormal sensitivity to hormones and that women stop suffering when their ovaries stop working: i.e. when they become pregnant, menopausal or have a hysterectomy with their ovaries removed,’ he says.

‘Otherwise, in all but the most severe cases, they can be helped with oestrogen patches or creams to bypass the hormonal damage.’

As for GPs, they often feel that the hormonal link is over-stated.

‘PMS, whether mild or severe, undoubtedly has a hormonal basis,’ says Dr Steve Field, chair of council at the Royal College of General Practitioners. ‘But depression can be a factor in severe cases and GPs will want to treat this symptom as part of their holistic care of patients.’

Early next year, a group of international experts will finally decide what to call this debilitating condition.

Meanwhile, Donna’s advice for sufferers is to forget about the name and complete the online diary provided by NAPS ( This is the key to diagnosis because it proves the problem is cyclical and demonstrates its severity.

As Donna explains: ‘It gives you the confidence to go to your doctor and make sure you get the help you need, showing that your hormones are not an excuse for bad behaviour but the cause of the problem.’

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1 Comment »

  1. Melizza-jayne Moore Kids new sw has been told 2 wks ago by CPN that I i only have traits of a PD. Not actually diagnosed with PD. Everybody has traits. IM PERFECTLY NORMAL. YAY.

    I am aware that I have PMS badly too. So much so my 16 year old son can tell when Im hormonal. Because Im ultra moody. I started my periods at ten. So thats 25 years of PMS. I have been on and off anti-depressants since I was seventeen. Im off all medications now. G.P thinks Im perfectly okay. Shes right. I feel incredible after all the counselling for my sexual abuses and rapes that were sustained whilst under NOTTINGHAM SOCIAL SERVICES.

    Comment by melizza moore — March 6, 2010 @ 7:17 am | Reply

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